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RE: 1997 NDS Equation Error?
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- Subject: RE: 1997 NDS Equation Error?
- From: Gerard Madden <gmadden(--nospam--at)duquette-eng.com>
- Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:21:17 -0800
Mark Swigle wrote: *** First a moot point: Using your numbers above, you should have gotten 2100 lbs for Ziiim, not 3156 lbs. *** Not a moot point Mark. Thanks for pointing out the error. I messed up transposing my spreadsheet to calc one bolt size to calculate all bolt sizes at once. *** Second, I have always used the version in the 1994 UBC, where the term in question (in the formula for k1) is shown *outside* the radical. Using the formulas that way, my numbers always agree with the tables in the 1994 UBC. *** Outside the radical is correct. I looked in my Breyer Book, design of wood structures, and I see I had crossed out the extent of the radical for k1... apparently, I had noticed this before. *** Third, you should use Fem=Fes=5600 psi, not Fem=6000 psi, for wood-to-concrete connections. At least that was the way in the 1991 NDS and the 1994 UBC. I realize that AF&PA's Technical Report 12 shows that the NDS tables are based on Fe=6000 psi for concrete, but I don't know if the new NDS tables have been updated for this. Let's stick to the old way for now (for purposes of this message, that is). *** The 97 UBC still says to use the double shear value of twice the thickness of the side member with Fem=Fes based on wood to wood. The 97 NDS, says, single shear, Fem=6000 psi for (2000 psi concrete - other values for other strengths of concrete not given), tm=6" min. Yes it is different and the 97 NDS tables are correct and that is actually where the Fem and tm values are given. Thanks for your time and comments, I appreciate it! -gerard SJ, CA ******* ****** ******* ******** ******* ******* ******* *** * Read list FAQ at: http://www.seaint.org/list_FAQ.asp * * This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers * Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. To * subscribe (no fee) or UnSubscribe, please go to: * * http://www.seaint.org/sealist1.asp * * Questions to seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org. Remember, any email you * send to the list is public domain and may be re-posted * without your permission. Make sure you visit our web * site at: http://www.seaint.org ******* ****** ****** ****** ******* ****** ****** ********
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