Return to index: [Subject] [Thread] [Date] [Author]
RE: CCD Method Of Anchorage Design
[Subject Prev][Subject Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next]- To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
- Subject: RE: CCD Method Of Anchorage Design
- From: "Jake Watson" <jwatson(--nospam--at)utahisp.com>
- Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:13:06 -0600
I am glad to see someone else wrestling with the impacts of this provision. My issue is that it is next to impossible to get a ductile failure in tilt-panel design. If you place a bearing plate on top of the wall, you end up with approximately 3" of edge distance in a standard 6" panel. If you need 8" panels for tall walls, you still only get 4" edge distance. If you put the embed on the side of the panel, you can probably get the ductile provision to work, but not with an anchor strong enough to support the roof joist. Are we going to start through bolting new construction? Does anyone know if there are plans to provide an out to this provision? Can we increase the force by 50% and then design it as brittle? Are any manufacturers going to make new anchors which better satisfy the criteria? Jake Watson, P.E. Salt Lake City, UT -----Original Message----- From: Rick.Drake(--nospam--at)Fluor.com [mailto:Rick.Drake(--nospam--at)Fluor.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:17 PM To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org Subject: CCD Method Of Anchorage Design A similar question came up on the list server recently, with little discussion. I thought I'd try again. The CCD Method for concrete anchor design can be found in Section 1913 of the 2000 IBC and Appendix D of ACI 318-02 (part of code as referenced by both NFPA 5000 and 2003 IBC). If you are in regions of moderate or high seismic risk (undefined), you must size the anchors for a reduced tensile strength defined as 0.75(phi)(F-sub-u)(A-sub-net), which is approximately 75% of what you would get from LRFD design. You will probably end up with larger anchor bolts. Then, with your probably larger anchor bolts, you need to provide a "ductile design", ensuring that the strength of all concrete limit states (pullout, breakout, burstout) be larger than the full anchor bolt tensile strength (phi)(F-sub-u)(A-sub-net). (Note the lack of the 0.75 factor.) This results in some combination of large embedments and supplemental reinforcing steel. 1st Question: Should regions of moderate or high seismic risk be considered equivalent to Seismic Design Categories C, D, E, and F, as defined by the 2000 IBC and later codes? 2nd Question: Why should the requirements for sizing the steel anchor bolts be prescribed by the "concrete people" to be more conservative than that prescribed by the "steel people" 3rd Question: Should the decision for "ductile design" of the anchor bolts be made by the EOR, considering the required system performance of the structure above? Whether we like it or not, if you are using the 2000 IBC in regions of moderate or high seismic risk, you will probably be using larger bolt diameters, deeper concrete embedments, and more supplemental reinforcing steel than you are used to. Have a nice day. Rick Drake, SE Still in 1997 UBC country. ********* ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- ******* ****** ******* ******** ******* ******* ******* *** * Read list FAQ at: http://www.seaint.org/list_FAQ.asp * * This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers * Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. To * subscribe (no fee) or UnSubscribe, please go to: * * http://www.seaint.org/sealist1.asp * * Questions to seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org. Remember, any email you * send to the list is public domain and may be re-posted * without your permission. Make sure you visit our web * site at: http://www.seaint.org ******* ****** ****** ****** ******* ****** ****** ******** --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.495 / Virus Database: 294 - Release Date: 6/30/03 ******* ****** ******* ******** ******* ******* ******* *** * Read list FAQ at: http://www.seaint.org/list_FAQ.asp * * This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers * Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. To * subscribe (no fee) or UnSubscribe, please go to: * * http://www.seaint.org/sealist1.asp * * Questions to seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org. Remember, any email you * send to the list is public domain and may be re-posted * without your permission. Make sure you visit our web * site at: http://www.seaint.org ******* ****** ****** ****** ******* ****** ****** ********
- References:
- CCD Method Of Anchorage Design
- From: Rick . Drake
- CCD Method Of Anchorage Design
- Prev by Subject: RE: CCD Method Of Anchorage Design
- Next by Subject: Ceramic Tile Cracks on Wood Floors
- Previous by thread: Re: CCD Method Of Anchorage Design
- Next by thread: Re: CCD Method Of Anchorage Design
- About this archive
- Messages sorted by: [Subject][Thread][Author][Date]